Regulated & Relational is ATN’s podcast exploring trauma-informed, attachment-focused ideas about regulation and relationship — and how we can help children build resilience and emotional health through the ways we parent, teach, and care.
Each episode shares practical strategies for caregivers, educators, and professionals. Browse recent episodes below, then listen on your favorite podcast app.
Note for review: Host attribution needs client confirmation (Julie Beem has retired; Tracy Leonard appears on newer episodes alongside Ginger Healy).
What if growth could sound like laughter?In this conversation, Billy Kaplan, a licensed clinical social worker at Treehouse Health, joins Ginger and Julie to explore how healing with…
What if healing didn’t require a therapy license—only presence, connection, and courage?Andi Fetzner joins Ginger and Julie and shares how her Origins Training work in Arizona supports adults…
What are children learning that no one is explicitly teaching?Ingrid Cockhren joins Julie and Ginger to explore how historical trauma shapes social learning, schooling, storytelling, and bias across…
In this episode, Julie Beem and Ginger Healy explore Julie’s research on mattering—what it is, why it matters, and how it shows up in adult-child relationships. This episode…
In this powerful and deeply human conversation, Ginger and Julie sit down with Josh Novick—licensed therapist, educator, national speaker, and founder of Trust & Grow Consulting—to explore what…
In this heartfelt and reflective episode, Julie Beem and Ginger Healy return to a profound conversation from Season 1 with the late Cissy White—trauma survivor, fierce advocate, and…
Play isn’t just fun—it’s essential. In this episode, Ginger and Julie unpack the science, healing power, and everyday possibilities of play. From brain development to emotional regulation, play…
What would it look like if we built a society that prevents child abuse and neglect—before it ever begins? In this episode, Ginger and Julie sit down with…
This is a follow-up to Episode 101, where we discussed the two recognized attachment disorder diagnoses and their impact on families. In this episode, we focus on how…
In this episode of Regulated & Relational, hosts Julie Beem and Ginger Healy sit down with two fathers on a mission to transform the way families and schools…
In this unforgettable episode, Ginger and Julie sit down with the one and only Barb Clark—a powerhouse trainer, parent, and advocate known for saying the things most people…
In this foundational episode of Regulated & Relational, Ginger and Julie dive deep into attachment disorders—what they are, how they’re diagnosed, and the realities families face when raising…
In this enlightening episode, Ginger Healy and Julie Beem sit down with Diane Gould, LCSW, and leading voice in the PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance) movement in North America.…
In this heartfelt and reflective episode, Julie Beem and Ginger Healy return to a profound conversation from Season 1 with the late Cissy White—trauma survivor, fierce advocate, and…
In this thought-provoking episode of Regulated & Relational, Ginger Healy and Julie Beem invite you to explore the transformative power of empathy—not just as a personal virtue but…
In this special birthday-themed episode of Regulated & Relational, we’re doing something a little different—and a lot more personal. Julie Beem is celebrating her birthday by inviting the…
In this insightful episode of Regulated & Relational, hosts Ginger Healy and Julie Beem are joined by Ce Eshelman, LMFT—an expert in attachment, trauma, and therapeutic parenting. With…
Today, we’re honored to sit down with a friend of ATN, Martin Ali Simms—a Neurosequential Sports Specialist, Mental Health Consultant, and Founder of The DOPE Coach Academy. Martin…
In this vital episode, Julie and Ginger dive into the intersection of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) with trauma-informed practices. As DEI comes under political and cultural scrutiny,…
In today’s episode of Regulated & Relational, Ginger Healy and Julie Beem are joined by a special guest, Cally Flox, a teaching artist, educator, and the lead author…
In this insightful episode, we sit down with educator, writer, and advocate Meghan Ashburn to explore how we can better support autistic students—both in and out of the…
In this episode of Regulated & Relational, Julie Beem and Ginger Healy discuss the concept of self-compassion, drawing insights from Dr. Kristin Neff's work. Dr. Neff, a researcher…
Join Ginger and Julie as they wrap up the season by talking about brain lessons. A little basic brain knowledge can go a long way in understanding behaviors…
Join Julie and Ginger as they speak with Dr. Lori Desautels Dr. Lori Desautels has been an Assistant Professor at Butler University since 2016, teaching undergraduate and graduate…
Join Julie and Ginger as they speak with Anashay Wright, a national award-winning educator, speaker, consultant, and founder of Authentic Disruption and Disruptive Partners, a community-based leadership development…
Join Julie and Ginger in speaking to Occupational Therapist, Kelly Mahler about Interoception and the body-mind disconnect. Kelly teaches that as caregivers and educators, we should be curious…
Join Julie and Ginger in speaking to Carey Sipp talking about early childhood intervention. Carey is a solutions journalist and “Neuro-Nurturing ®” advocate who has written about the…
Join Ginger and Julie as they talk to Mathew Portell. Mathew has dedicated a decade and a half to education in his role as a teacher, instructional coach,…
In this episode Ginger and Julie talk to Dafna Lender who is an international trainer, EMDR therapist, and supervisor for practitioners who work with children and families. She…
Listen in as Julie and Ginger talk to Ginger Lewman about Bullying. Ginger Lewman is a national consultant & keynote speaker with ESSDACK, a non-profit education service center…
In Episode 82, Ginger & Julie dig into Oxytocin. Oxytocin is often called the “love” or “cuddle” hormone. High levels of oxytocin correlate with the speed of wound…
In this episode Julie and Ginger interview ATN’s dear friend, Dr. Melissa Sadin. Melissa teaches us about Hope Theory based on the work of Gwinn and Hellman and…
In this Episode Julie and Ginger teach about the PolyVagal Theory and introduce us to Our PolyVagal World a new book by Dr. Stephen Porges and his son…
In this Episode Julie and Ginger talk to Dr. Rick Cain. Rick specializes in the neuroscience of stress and well-being. He helps us explore how wellness practices in…
In today’s episode, Ginger and Julie dive into Step-Parenting. Approximately 40% of all families are blended families, which are defined as divorced and/or remarried families or those living…
Co-Regulation: Stepping in with soothing, responsive interactions to help a person be able to regulate their emotions. OR Borrowing the ability to attain a regulated state from…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger share the Five Neurodivergent Love Languages from @neurowonderful. Info dumping. Sharing information about topics that excite you and that you have an…
In this Episode Julie and Ginger seek to increase awareness and acceptance of the strengths that neurodivergent children have. Neurodiversity means valuing all types of thinking and learning…
In this Episode, Julie interviews Joe Brummer and Marg Thorsborne about their new book, Becoming a Trauma-Informed Restorative Educator. Both Joe and Marg have years of experience and…
In his book, The Myth of Normal, Dr. Gabor Mate points out that all children have 4 irreducible needs: a sense of security trust in the world interrelationships…
In this episode Julie and Ginger talk about the 3Es of trauma. SAMHSA, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration of the US government, coined the term…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Jen Alexander and Jennifer Dickey into the studio. They have come to talk about executive function skills and working memory. You…
Today, Julie and Ginger invite Dr. Susan Hopkins into the studio. Dr. Hopkins, along with Dr. Stuart Shanker, will be keynoting at ATN’s 7th Annual Creating Trauma-Sensitive Schools…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Lorraine Schneider into the studio to chat about the episodes from season 3 and there were some really great ones! Lorraine…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger welcome Dr. Aimie into the studio. Basically, Dr. Aimie is amazing. She is a double board-certified physician, boarded in both preventive and…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger delve into the definitions of trauma-informed. While this seems very simple, there are many definitions floating out there and we wanted to…
Today Julie and Ginger are talking about the 3 G’s: Gratitude, Grounding and Glimmers. These are basic mindfulness strategies that provide emotional safety in both the home and…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk about the school to prison pipeline with Leonard Webb. What an important topic this is! Leonard retired from law enforcement and…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger discuss the Vagus nerve and other occupational therapist topics with Allison Morgan. Allison is the founder and CEO of Zensational Kids, an…
In this episode Julie and Ginger talk about the Inner Working Model. This is basically the blueprint for how we connect with others. John Bowlby says it best…
In this episode, the studio is full. Julie and Ginger have Jen Alexander and Anna Paravano as guests. Jen Alexander is a veteran educator, counselor, and long-time ATN…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger are talking about relationships between parents and teachers with their guest host, Jessica Harris. Jessica was a teacher with 17 years of…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk about Belonging. And what an important concept that really is! Love and belonging are crucial human needs and Brene Brown says,…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger explore the concept of grief by welcoming Emelio Parga into the studio. Emelio is the founder and Executive Director of the Solace…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger are deep-diving into the concept of curiosity. Brene Brown defines curiosity as recognizing a gap in our knowledge about something that interests…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger dive into anger! Brene Brown defines anger as an emotion we feel when something gets in the way of our desired outcome,…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Connie Persike into the studio to talk about interoception, one of our hidden senses. Interoception is the ability to process information…
In this session, Julie and Ginger invite Dr. Jon Baylin into the studio. Dr. Baylin received his doctorate in clinical psychology from Peabody College of Vanderbilt University in…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger discuss the concept of “Felt Safety”. You can’t trust, heal, or learn in a state of unsafety. This isn’t only about physical…
Today Julie and Ginger invite Jessica Sinarski into the studio. If you think her name seems familiar, then you are correct. Jessica has been here before. This is…
In this episode Ginger and Julie invite Tracy Leonard into the studio. Tracy is the Programming and Partnership Manager at the non-profit, Darkness to Light. Darkness to Light…
In this Episode, Julie and Ginger welcome Dr. Janyne McConnaugheyinto the studio. Janyne has a long career in teaching, teacher education and an expertise in early childhood development.…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger welcome Rebecca Lewis-Pankratz into the studio to talk about the concept of the River of Cruelty. Rebecca fought her way out of…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk about the concept of “Blocked Care”. Drs. Daniel Hughes and Jonathan Baylin first coined this concept in their book, Brain Based…
In this episode of Regulated and Relational, Julie and Ginger invite long-time ATN friend, Dr. Melissa Sadin into the studio. Simply put, Dr. Sadin is a developmental trauma…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Mr. Chazz Lewis into the studio. Mr. Chazz, a former Montessori school teacher, is an educational specialist, a keynote speaker, a…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Emily Daniels into the studio to talk about how to create a regulated classroom. Emily is a trainer, consultant, facilitator, leader,…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Dr. Mona Delahooke into the studio. Dr. Delahooke discusses how to raise joyful and resilient children – and isn’t that the…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk about the concept of Serve and Return. This notion was introduced through the Center on the Developing Child at Harvard University.…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger continue their discussion of therapeutic parenting. If you are caring for a child with a trauma history, you know that therapeutic parenting…
In the next two episodes, Julie and Ginger deep dive into the concept of therapeutic parenting. The healing of childhood trauma comes directly from relationships and a child’s…
In this episode Julie and Ginger welcome Scott Kuenneke and Mary DeMichele into the studio. Scott is an integral part of the CALO Programs Residential Treatment Facility clinical…
Julie and Ginger invite Sandra Lake and James Moffett into the studio. They are both awesome trauma informed educators, and in this episode, they are discussing what it…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger discuss Secondary Traumatic Stress. This is a hard topic to talk about, but it is so important. Ginger says, “Secondary traumatic stress…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger are discussing boundaries. They got a lot of insight from Brene Brown’s book, Atlas of the Heart. ATN’s Team R&R, an online…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk about their latest book study, Atlas of the Heart, by Brene Brown. ATN’s Team R&R, an online community for educators, is…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk about the delicate balance between structure and nurture. What are the differences in punishment, consequences, accountability, and discipline? These terms are…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger reflect on what our lives have been like dealing with Covid and building resilience throughout the pandemic. Ginger says that “It’s important…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk with Dr. Jenna Lichter, ATN’s Trauma-Sensitive Schools Coordinator. Listen in to learn more about trauma sensitive schools - what they are…
In this episode Julie and Ginger acknowledge that the holidays are not always full of cheer for all families. Children with traumatic experiences may not be able to…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger revisit the concept of shame. Shame is a dangerous tool that leads to maladaptive behaviors. Ginger says that “Shame is much more…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger introduce the concept of shame. According to Brene Brown, a world-renowned social worker with a focus on shame, shame is an “intensely painful…
In this episode Julie and Ginger discuss the New York Times bestselling book Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle. What is burnout? How do you know…
In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk about the Window of Tolerance, specifically what level of stress can we tolerate and grow from and what we can do…
Julie and Ginger discuss why rewards and punishments don’t work for traumatized children. What are rewards? What are punishments? What are consequences? Why don’t they work and what…
Today Julie and Ginger partner with Michele Nigliazzo, ATN’s Court Advocacy Director. They discuss the impact of discovering that your child needs Special Education services. They reveal that…
Today Julie and Ginger talk with Stephanie Garde, ATN’s Operation Manager to discuss peer support. Parent-to-parent support is the root of the foundation of the Attachment & Trauma…
What does it feel like as we start to get back to “normal”? Ginger and Julie are exploring the emotional impact of the pandemic...the collective grief. What is…
The single most common factor for children who develop resilience is at least one stable and committed relationship with a supportive parent, caregiver or other adult. These relationships…
